that we were just talking about it is the science. that is the person the signs the you can see. and to thank think that how do they do that they are out of control kids. >> and you think that these children are talking about. they do not want to take the next step. >> i have noticed this is not a theory this is a real truth. the moment that you sit down with the bully. that i did write in detention together. -- i did sit down and i ended up talking to her. and this floodgate of understanding opens. because i suddenly understood that she was scared. she was scared as i was. the understanding of being punished for different reasons springs camaraderie. i never said that she was my best friend. but i am saying that it -- brought camaraderie. but it cannot become friends in the and that they were still lead to understanding. >> our skills becoming more proactive? >> yes and no we are being proactive but we're putting up a wrong theory. when i go to speak to schools amasses come to hear that i can pick them out before they even talk. it is mainly body language. and they relate to bei